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Question PREPURCHASE QUESTIONS
Posted by: Z1R - 04-17-2025, 03:50 PM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

Confused I have been investigating an updated replacement for an EOL NetGear RN422 initially acquired back in 2019 !

With basic specs of Intel® Atom C3338 Dual Core Processor, 2GB DDR4, Drive Bays 2
No further explanation warranted lol !
 
The two units I put to scrutiny are the Asustor 5404T and the QNAP TS-464 after much scrutiny I decided upon the QNAP TS-464 based on my use case and what appears to be a vastly larger amount of peer based user community resources – albeit understanding the configuration terminology etc. may be a steeper hill to climb !
I am posting this plethora of questions for one simple reason I rest firmly in the school of “Fail to Plan …Plan to Fail” !
 
The hardware configuration I plan on assembling consist of the following and I plan to use the NAS as both a media server for locally stored media files hopefully via Jelly Fin and for serving files for primarily PDF’s MS Office .docx, .pptx, .xlsx etc.
Ø  QNAP TS-464 4-Bay vendor states pre-configured with 8GB of RAM and QTS 5.0.1 Operating System pre-installed , Intel Celeron N5095
Ø  Crucial RAM 16GB Kit (2x8GB)
Ø  Seagate IronWolf Pro 10Tb NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD x 2
Ø  Western Digital 2TB WD Red SN700 NVMe M.2 SSD x 2
 
HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS STATED AS SUCCINCTLY AS POSSIBLE
I have studied to the point of information overload on what might be the best way to configure the drives. In regard to storage pools, volumes thick, thin, static etc. Note I have little to no desire to use caching as I see very little benefit from it due to its primary focus on serving up small files quicker etc.
I am looking for suggestions/advice on QNAP ecosystem configuration/provisioning  based on my stated use?
 
Since the retailer of the QNAP TS-464 is an unpopulated enclosure and the vendor proclaims the OS QTS 5.0.1 is pre-installed this begs to question were exactly is it installed? When I upgrade the memory to 16 GB and install the new drives will I have to reinstall the OS ? or is the OS installed on the 4GB Flash Memory simply requiring me boot it up and add the drives once the OS has loaded ? If the latter is the case is there a wy I can force th OS to load to the NVME’s to use them for the smoother /faster operational speed they might bring to the table ?
 
Is the hardware I have chosen the best use of $$$ seeing my minimalist understanding of what the two NVME’s will bring to the table in terms of daily use would I be better off expanding the HDD capacity to 4 x Seagate IronWolf Pro 10Tb NAS Internal Hard Drives configured in a RAID 5 configuration were I could gain the additional storage/file hosting of 30Tb and utilizing one 10Tb to store parity information while dropping the NVME’s ? Thereby creating and environment with good balance between data protection, increased practical useable capacity, and speed ? I have had very good luck with the Seagate IronWolf PRO’s to date !
 
Thanks in advance for reading my unbelievably lengthy post !

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  Physically move RAID 5 disks from old QNAP(TS-TS-h973AX-32GB)670 Pro) to new QNAP ( (
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-17-2025, 10:35 AM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

I have a TS-670 with issues and would like to lift and shift all drives (see Storage) to the QNAP TS-h973AX-32GB. Can this be done easily without loosing data? Do not want to reformat or loose the data... Thank you.

Andrew D.

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  UGreen NAS Units PRice HIKES in UK
Posted by: ARJ_1966 - 04-17-2025, 06:26 AM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

Morning all,

Whilst still deliberating whether to but a new system, and if so, which system/manufactruer, I’ve just noted in the last 24 hours or so that the prices on the UK UGREEN NAS site have gone up a good 10%, the 8 bay unit now being £1430 as opposed to £1300, the NVME device £1030 instead of around £870 I think it was..

Amazon.uk still selling under old prices…

Tarrifs in action?

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  Upgrading from a DS220j
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-17-2025, 03:35 AM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

Hello! Upgrading from a Synology 220j. Don't like the sluggish performance. Have two 4 TB Seagate Iron Wolf (only using 1 TB currently). Would like to dramatically increase performance and have room to grow. I'm going to be backing up on USB drive in addition to the NAS. Currently putting movies/photos on NAS so expect some more space requirement - MAYBE a home camera/surveillance system. I'm a beginner and trying to understand NAS use - so wanting to stay with Synology I think. Really appreciate your help!

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  Who actually makes Synology drives ?
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-16-2025, 10:35 PM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

As there are few makers of HDDs and SSDs it seems unlikely that Synology make their own.So are they just rebranded ?Or their firmware adjusted to appear as if they are their own ?

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  Have a Super Micro 3U Chassis w/ Motherboard, reuse or replace?
Posted by: ItsAMeMario - 04-16-2025, 09:10 PM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (5)

Hi Everyone,

I am looking for some advice before I upgrade my existing NAS, to get a few opinions on how others would proceed.

I currently have a supermicro 3U 16 Bay chassis, supporting E-ATX and ATX mobos, with a supermicro motherboard (X9DRD-7LN4F).  It is quite old, but I have specced it out with a full dual power supply for resiliency, low-ish (for a server, but still relatively loud) volume fans, etc.  It has dual E5-2620 V2 (CPU Mark 6250 x2 = 12500), with no QuickSync.  It has all 16 bays used (a couple SSDs for OS/VMs), though about 10 smaller disks that could be amalgamated with buying ~3 new large disks .  I have added an Nvidia GPU to do transcoding in plex.

I currently have it running Windows Server 2019, with StableBit DrivePool and snapraid to allow me to use different size disks.  I use it as a home lab, primarily running plex, but running a few various VMs for different functions that are not very intensive.

I have had it for a few years, and I have looked into what my options are, as it is very power hungry (using maybe 20% of the power of my entire home), noisy (not a huge deal, as I have it in a basement), and large.  Additionally I want to add HomeAssistant to this setup, but I am unable to pass through dongles for Zigbee, matter and Z-wave as required due to hyper-v restrictions.

Summary:
Current Specs:

  • SuperMicro Chassis/Motherboard
  • 64GB Ram
  • Dual E5-2620 V2 (CPU Mark 6250 x2 = 12500)
  • Windows Server 2019 with VMs for various functions
  • SnapRAID and DrivePool to manage data

My current issues with this setup:
  • Power Hungry (and loud)
  • Unable to pass through dongles for z-wave etc. to allow home assistant use (will otherwise likely buy a mini-pc/rpi)
  • Annoying to use containers within a Host > VM > Container setup, as opposed to directly on the host.  Not the end of the world, but adds a bit of complexity.

My future plans:
  • Implement Home Assistant
  • Likely move to UnRaid (I already own a perpetual license)
  • Utilize a bunch more containers for various aspects, some of which are being done inside VMs now, some would be net new
  • Replace hardware (Motherboard/CPU) with something more modern
  • No need for GPU, as quicksync would cover transcoding

I am in no huge rush to replace this, I can run as is for a few years if needed before needing a major upgrade (at longest Jan 2029 when Server 2019 goes EoL), but I likely will need to procure something in the interim for Home Assistant (HA Green/Raspberry Pi), which then may be wasted when I upgrade this.

My Questions:
  1. Based on my above specs, do people here think the value is in buying net new everything (besides disks, but I guess even the small disks could be replaced), or utilize the existing chassis, and fit a new (probably non-server grade) motherboard inside it?
  2. Will I get value in upgrading to one of the recommended mobo/cpu combos with higher specs, mostly from an energy saving perspective?  This server costs me ~20USD/month in electricity to run, but I am not aware of how much is Disks and PSUs (which likely would remain) vs the other.

Thanks for the support!!

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  Formatting the OS SSD as a new Volume
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-16-2025, 05:00 PM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

Hi!

If I want to turn my SSD (where the OS of my current NAS is installed) into a new Storage Pool/Volume, will the formatting of the SSD drive adversely affect the OS that's already installed there?

My TerraMaster F4-424 Pro NAS has been a good passive storage solution so far, even though my only Storage Volume currently is the two 4 TB HDDs. I noticed all the apps were being downloaded/installed onto the same Volume/Pool as the HDDs and wanted to get the apps moved onto my SSD instead, but I'd need to format SSD to prep it for Storage and I'm worried that will mess up the OS that's already there.

Please reply at your earliest convenience. Thanks!

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  Aoostar WTR MAX — Prebuilt Expandability
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-16-2025, 12:35 PM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

This is more of a recommendation of a topic for your videos than a request for help, per se. I want to buy a prebuilt machine because they look nicer and are easier to deal with. The question of expandability is always unclear to me, however. If I could add a low profile GPU to some of these machines eg WTR MAX or Minisforum N5, they would be the ideal choice. Can I? and what pathways are there to expansion beyond Oculink (ie internal). I live in a tiny tiny flat as a lot of people do and don't want a bunch of large towers or Oculink docks

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  Choosing the right NAS for 4K home video storage?
Posted by: officesnakes - 04-16-2025, 07:59 AM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

I am looking for a suitable NAS device to store and play 4K videos for my family. My main need is to store movies, personal videos and be able to stream to the TV in my house via the local network. I also want to use the NAS to back up photos from my phone and computer. I am confused between Synology and QNAP, not sure which one is more stable and easier to use for beginners? The minimum requirements are 2 hard drive bays, support 4K transcoding if needed, and good compatibility with Plex. Can anyone suggest a suitable model? Thanks in advance!

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  Ready-to-go vs DIY NAS?
Posted by: Enquiries - 04-16-2025, 03:00 AM - Forum: Before you buy Q&A - Replies (1)

I am eager to implement a centralised backup solution in my home, however I am weighing up the cost-effectiveness of ready-to-go NAS boxes (e.g Synology, QNAP, Terramaster, etc.) or to build a DIY nas and BYO operating system to it like TrueNAS. In Australia, Amazon have Terramaster systems for as low as AU$399, however they are reviewed poorly and I am nervous about buying something that doesn't last, although the cost is appealing. On the other hand, I like the expandability of a DIY NAS and the control I can get over it. However once all of the parts of a DIY NAS are added up, it ends up costing more than a Synology system. Would it be better to buy a Terramaster system and flash my own operating system to it, buy a NUC and drive bays, or build a NAS from scratch? I'm stuck for choice..!

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