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After suffering a severe data damage from accidentally dropping one of my WD Passport USB drives, I'm now looking for a NAS server for running a few virtual machines and serving as a fail-safe file server for my huge Blu-ray ISO file collection.
I'd like to put the NAS machine up a shelf in the closet, so I'm looking for a 12 bay 2U rack version, running as silent and economical as possible.
I'm a developing application software for Windows, so I'd like to benefit from the NAS' ability to run virtual machines.
In order for the NAS server to run one or two (or three?) Windows 11 VMs while still being able to serve its natural purpose, I'd expect the machine to be equipped with at least 6 CPU cores and 64 GB of RAM.
On the other hand, I need the NAS device to run as a fail-safe file server by using RAID-6, eventually providing 100 TB of data.
Over time, I want to incrementally add new drives to a storage group or replace existing drives by larger ones to increase volume size. All done online, without performing backups first and without being required to shut down the NAS device when I remove/add drives.
From time to time I'd like to hard-reset the NAS device to make sure that any kind of malware that might have slipped into the NAS OS will be wiped. Doing so, I'd still like to keep my VMs and storage groups without taking a backup first, so that I can immediately continue to use both, my VMs and the files stored in those storage groups, right after I re-installed the NAS OS.
Perhaps I can even have the NAS device render Maxon Cinema 4D animations in a VM? It usually takes weeks for these to render. I'd very much outsource this task to the NAS device, so I can continue to use my workstation machines for my other daily tasks. So, if the NAS device would accept a GeForce RTX 3090 and be able to address the GPGPU from a VM that'd be a great advantage. But that would just put the cherry on the cake. (And I don't believe that this is possible at all. - Perhaps that might be an interesting new category for this forum: "rendering 3D raytracing animations in a NAS device")
After doing some research I first thought that the QNAP TS-h1277XU-RP-3700X-128G might have been the right device for me. But reading through the specs I noticed it doesn't support online RAID capacity expansion, which is what I basically need (see animated images in the attachment).
Being a NAS newbie I don't know what to buy. Can someone please recommend a NAS device fulfilling all of my requirements?
Your help is very much appreciated.
Not sure you will get below message as I answered to my own question, not sure how the systen works here? So here we go again :-)
Thanks your answer.
WOW that is a lot of backup, I am planning to purchase the QNAP TVS-h1688X with 10x8TB or maybe 10TB drives and then Seagate IronWolf 125 SSD 4TB NAS Internal Solid State Drive, 2 x 4TB for cache and 2 x 4TH for special storage (probably surveillance) outside the Raid as I will delete these files when they get over 30 days old.
Will also be installing a couple of SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM), unless you think that's a bad idea, can't have enough (too much) storage, can you?
The backup unit I have planned on the QNAP TS-832PX-4G 8 Bay which I will put same size drives in as on the 1688 and the go from there. That have to be enough for starts :-)
Not sure about this: QNAP Dual-Band Wireless PCIe Expansion Card (QWA-AC2600), will that interfere with the boats other wireless configurations. Would be nice to have a wireless connection for the NAS only to use for external units, smart phones, tables and TV's to hear music and watch movies/tv-series?
For camera surveillance I will probably go for the Hikvision DS-2CD2183G0-I 8.0MP 4K (2 pcs as I don't know how the with cover will be, will need to have both port and starboard side covered), as I can also connect those to the chart plotters and use them to safely get the 60 foot catamaran alongside in a marina, not easy to get a large catamaran along side even with a bow thruster, so these cameras will be handy :-)
Again thanks for your many answers, I know that you are probably very busy :-)
I'm setting up a NAS primarily for PLEX and media(audio, video, pictures) storage/streaming
To that end I have purchased the following:
WD Gold 10TB HD(WD102KRYZ4) 4 each
WD Red 1TB SSD (WDS100T1R0A) 4 each
Now I am looking at which M.2 SSD NVME cards to add.
I intend to use these drives for my system volume in a Raid 1 configuration.
*Do you recommend using these SSD's in this way?
*Which brand and size do you recommend for this purpose?
It seems like the 32G RAM included is a good start but I'm not sure it is enough.
*Should I add more RAM while I have the case cracked and if so how much?
I have just purchased QNAP TS453D 4G and also purchased Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe.M.2.
My objective is to run QTS from NVMe. But QNAP QM2 adaptor is out of my budget. Also I not looking for 10Gbe network.
Kindly advise what adaptor I should buy.
You may be aware QNAP TS453D 4G is having
M.2 Slot Optional via a PCIe adapter
PCIe Slot 1 PCIe Gen 2 x2
Kishalay Ghosh Dastidar
I am wondering what is the recommended ECC RAM stick to buy for the QNAP TS-873A-8G? I read that I should get ECC memory for the ZFS file system. Which sticks are compatible and recommended for this unit?
I would prefer each 16GB stick to be around $120 or cheaper if possible.
I am working on improving my NAS Security after the Qlocker debacle. I followed the video you made on this topic (great material thanks!) and picked up most of the points. One thing I am struggling with is that in order to set up the push service I am being asked to connect to myQnapCloud, a service which I do not want to enable for the time being. Am I correct in my understanding that I can only enable push notifications if I enable myQnapCloud service on my NAS or is there some way around it? Or maybe I am just not understanding the instructions I found on Qnaps own tutorial page.
Thanks for any and all the help!
Can I Move hard drives to different slots on my 4 bay 453b Qnap? I have 3 shucked 8TB WD drives in bays 1, 2 and 3. Since drive 1 is next to CPU, it runs 2-3 degrees hotter than drive 3. I want to leave bay 1 open. I don’t want to lose data. If I shut down my Nas, can I move drive 1 from slot 1 to slot 4? My theory is that all three drives will function at the same temperature and maybe the CPU’s will also cool down as a result of leaving slot one empty. Right now my CPU temp is 46°C and my drives are 48°, 47° and 45° (bays 1,2 and 3, respectively).
Looking for a NAS to use at home to stream content to 1-2 MacBook Pros, 1-2 iPhones, and/or a 4K TV (LG). Would likely only have 1-2 streams at a time. Content ranges from 720 to 4K. Will also use the NAS as wireless backup via Time Machine for the two MacBook Pros. Knowing that I'll be using hardware transcoding (plan to subscribe to Plex Pass), I want to find a NAS that allows me to use an M.2 NVME SSD as a storage volume with PCIe Gen 3 capability (either with an expansion card or natively with slots), with the idea that I'd run Plex on that NVME volume and use it as a transcoding directory as well. QNAP allows M.2 volumes to be used as storage, so this should work on a QNAP device that has the right hardware. A few questions:
1. Is this overkill for my use case?
2. If it is overkill, which NAS from either QNAP or Synology would be best for the transcoding use case without the M.2 NVMEs as storage volumes?
3. If it is not overkill, which QNAP devices with PCI Gen 3 M.2 slots would work for the transcoding use case?
4. Can an iPhone or MacBook Pro direct-stream 4K content from a NAS?
I decided to put a NAS in my home and spent several hours watching your videos on models, setup, applications and more. I can honestly say that I don't think there is a better source of information on the internet for anyone interested in NAS solutions. My sincere compliments.
Actually, I've had a NAS (QNAP TS-251) running in my office (not set up by me). It's been working great as a simple server solution (using shared folders) for 4 years now and I decided to buy/install one for my home.
Last week I got my QNAP TS-251D(4GB version) with two Seagate Iron Wolf 4TB (ST4000VN008) drives and did the RAID-1 setup based on your suggestions. One storage pool with 3 separate volumes, each with a shared folder.
Setup was smooth, but since I'm working from home (as is nearly everyone...) I had to pause for about 10 hours before adding any data to the drives.
The NAS is located just beneath my desk, and I noticed that the disks were active (noisy) for 30-40 seconds, then a 5-10 second pause, and then back to active.
This continued incessantly, for the entire 10 hours of time I was doing other things on my pc without relenting.
It didn't make sense, since the drives had finished formatting and there was no data. I had only added a few apps (based on your suggestions, Malware Remover, Security Counselor, QuFirewall). All the other apps were pre-installed. I couldn't understand why the disks were so active.
I checked the resource monitor to view the ongoing processes and noticed that there were a large number of ZOMBIE processes running. By large number, I mean it ranged from the lows 10's to the low 100's (about 150 at one point). Made no sense, so I went to my office to verify the situation on my TS-251 (with two 1TB WD Red drives). The resource monitor there showed 1-5 zombie processes going on, but no more.
So I opened a support ticket with QNAP and it took them a few days to respond.
a) their first suggestion was to change my disks to compatible models (which shocked me since the Seagates I've got are meant for a NAS, and I basically bought them after watching one of your videos). I did check the QNAP compatibility list, and did discover that the specific model number of my Seagates is not listed, but nonetheless, should I spend another 200 quid to fix this problem ???
b) alternatively, they suggested I try downgrading my QTS. When first setting up my TS-251D, I did (as suggested by QNAP and also by you) an immediate firmware update (to version 18.104.22.1680). Funny enough, when checking the link their support sent me, the latest version for my QNAP showed as 22.214.171.1244, and there is no sign of the version that my NAS automatically updated to. Since the idea of buying new drives (for a TEST) didn't appeal to me, I tried downgrading the QTS to see what impact it would have. The downgrade was successful. I don't get any pop-ups telling me that an update is available (which I find strange, since my previous upgrade was a higher number...). Anyway, there is basically no difference in terms of disk activity (constant). The zombie process count is now in the 10-20 range and I haven't seen it go higher (yet).
c) they also suggested that I disable any scheduled scanning jobs, but I've only got Malware + AV jobs running at 2-3am respectively. No other jobs.
d) their final suggestion of theirs was to remove one drive and see if anything changes. I'd love your advice before trying that.
So after a long explanation, I'm hoping that you'll share your thoughts as to what you would do in my place.
My office NAP is silent by comparison. Do you truly think that I must either get used to the disks being constantly active (and noisier than the WD’s in my TS-251), or spend another 200 to get drives that are on the TS-251D compatibility list ?
Could there be any other causes for the disk activity (a defective device, or defective disk ?)
I’m having problems sourcing this in UK and wondering if anyone else has had the same?
QNAP have one UK supplier shown for the model but that supplier (serversdirect) have taken the order but now cite an “ongoing problem” and cannot fulfil.
QNAP in the UK are telling me that they don’t offer that model in the UK any more...yet still link to serversdirect as the UK supplier for the NAS, effectively endorsing them as being able to supply it to me in the UK....at least, that’s how it feels to me.
It feels a bit shabby tbh.
Hello and thanks in advanced,
My question is as follows: for the QNPA Photo Station interface is there a setting to hide on the admin (me) specific folders. I have created a private folder for another user pictures and was able to upload them into photo station, however, I have not been able to hide all his photos from being available on my photo station. I can hide for the user but not for the admin. Or if there is a way to grant the other user access to the multimedia console and do photo station independently.
Once more thanks in advanced.
Hi there, I'am looking for a new nas for my SMB office (10-15 client pc, 2 phisical servers and 2 virtual machine). I'am a QNAP nas adopter with a first really satifatory experience with a TS-259 Pro (still working) and another one really worsth with a TS-453A who completly dead after less than 2 years of work.
Now I'am looking for a better stable and upgradable solution for file sharing and centralized backup and I'am interested in Synology DS1621+ or QNAP TS-673A-8G.
I like to try the newer ZFS filesystem proposed from QNAP but the Synology Active Backup for Business suite seems to offer more complete backup solution.
So my questions:
- There is a integrated baremetal backup solution for windows clients also for QNAP nas? Currently I'am using the QNAP NetBak Replicator for backup file folders from clients but the Synology suite seems to be most complete.
- The Synology Active Backup for Business could backup also the free Esxi Hypervisor VM or only vSphere solution?
- The ZFS filesystem offers some real advantages in the client/server backup procedures?
Thank you for your time!
I have 2 different 4K TVs (2018 Samsung QN65Q6FN and ~2015 LG 55UF6450 using Ultra Deep Color on HDMI1) , and no luck getting 4K 60hz with my TS-453D. With a laptop I have no such issues, using the same cables, with soundbar or without. With the Samsung I do get 1920x1080@120hz though which surprised me.
The TS-253D has a PCIe 2x4 slot, while the TS-453D has a 2x2.
The TR-002 expansion unit has a SATA3 6Gbps controller, whereas the TR-004 only a has a SATA 2 3Gbps controller, or is that not correct? TR-002 has USB 3.2 Gen2 , TR-004 has USB 3.2 Gen1.
I bought the TS-453D knowing the difference on the PCIe slot ahead of time, now reading the fine print on the expansion units. I haven't decided what to use my PCIe slot for.
To me buying into old SATA 2 technology, PCie 2x2 USB 3.x Gen 1, DDR3, etc is undesirable. Is SATA2 ok? USB 3.2 Gen1 ok? Where is the performance bottleneck I should concern myself with?
Why have a lesser spec on the 4 bay unit? to save a few bucks. I think it only leads to frustrated users that have researched the 2 bay unit but decided to up their budget. Call the 4 bay model something different but make the specs the same if using TS-x53D and TR-00x.
What is more sufficient? SSD cache or SSD system pool? If I´m right when I do install first a RAID 1 with two M2 SDD this will be the system pool. Every NAS App will be installed on this device. If I just insert RAID 5 HDD this will be the system pool. How is to calculate the size of this M.2 SSD. Would be nice if VM´s, Containers would run as well on SSD system pool. For a SSD cache in Read only a older SSD SATA drive should work as well? Thx
I am a first time NAS buyer for my home use. I am looking mainly for storage for my music collection & photos. Also to access my storage remotely. I also want to remove some of the strain from my laptop. I have ordered the qnap ts-230 & am waiting delivery. I am now rethinking that maybe I should have purchased the synology 218 or doubled up the price & purchased the synology 220+ ? I realize the 220+ has a faster intel processor & can expand the ram. What benefits will the 220+ provide to me? I will not need anything more than 2 bay.
What would you recommend that I look at purchasing?
How may I validate / Certify individual HDDs during my QNAP setup. (Would like to start by making sure all new individual HDDs are in perfect working order and was not damaged during shipment etc. Would prefer a complete Read/Write verification test of all data blocks available through DAS products such as SoftRaid.
BTW: I am setting up a new QNAP TVS-872XT with 8 Seagate Exos 14TB drives in RAID-6
Have you tried using a USB 3.0 hub on a QNAP NAS? I plugged an Anker USB 3.0 SuperSpeed 10-Port Hub into the USB 3.0 port on the rear of my QNAP TS-251 NAS and it seems to work okay with multiple external USB drives plugged into the hub. If this works, then it seems like a way to add more USB 3.0 ports to the NAS. I would assume that there is a practical limit to the number of USB drives you could add this way. I'm wondering if you have tested something like this.
Ok. I asked this question earlier and got a reply. "The website for Qnap shows that I can use the ts-453d with 8 cameras on a home surveillance system. Qnap says it needs 8gb ram to do so. But the 4gb specs say it will transfer 160 GB per sec, and the nas surveillance calculator shows I will need something like 48gb per sec. Can I do 8 cameras with 4gb model (I plan on upgrading to more than 8 at a later date)?"
The reply I got is "IP cameras themselves do not require extra RAM. You can have 8 cameras recording with 4GB RAM with no problems. You need RAM for playback. It also depends on which software you will use to operate your cameras. If you use Surveillance Station, this app do not need much resources to run and operate. If you are looking at QVR Pro then this app will require some more resources then the other app mentioned. QVR Client is a desktop app for your computer. The requirement for 8GB RAM is mentioned for your computer if you refer to this : https://www.qnap.com/en-uk/software/qvr-pro
Either way, whichever software you choose to use, you can upgrade RAM capacity at any time in the future."
I have another question. So the 8gb ram requirement is for my home computer? I have never used a nas, but think the features of one (qumagie, qvr pro) are phenomenal apps. So just to be clear, using the qvr pro software, if I get the 4gb ts-453d, and have a home computer with more than 8gb of ram, I shouldn't have any problem? Does this apply to the hdmi output of the device as well? What i want to do is have the 453d in my garage inside a large safe. run a cat6 cable to my router, to be able to access it from one of 3 computers. all will have more than the 8gb of ram. when i get all of the cameras i want for a surveillance system, is all i will need then a switch? sorry for so many questions, just havent done much with networking before, but I think a nas is the best solution for the cost in my case. Thanks in advance. Also, does NasCompares have affiliate links for purchases or a patreon?