NAS Upgrades

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First time memory tests on unofficial memory in DS920+?

This is more of an unexpected "what happened" than a question so if it happens to you, you won't panic.

New DS920+ with 4, 8TB hdd and 4GB of internal RAM. 1. First memory test with 4GB ran as expected. Started it from the "Assistant" and the NAS went into reboot process and then started the memtest. After it was done, the NAS rebooted and everything was normal. Used PuTTy to SSH into the NAS and used the command sudo cat /var/log/messages | grep 'Memtest' to verify the memtest results. Test passed as expected. Ran two more times - all good.

2. Installed 4GB stick of Crucial (CT4G4SF8266) and started the memory testing process again. This time when it started the initial rebooting - the NAS shutdown. No LED's, no fans turning - nothing. After waiting several minutes, I long pressed the Power button and the unit started up and went into the memory test. Checked the results, everything passed. Performed the test again two more times and in both cases the reboot worked as expected, went into test, completed and rebooted.

3. Next I have a 16GB stick of Crucial (CT16G48FD8266) that I installed and started testing. Just like the first test on the 4GB stick, the first test on the 16GB stick failed to reboot and went into a power off state. No LED's, no fan's. Waited several minutes and then pressed the power on button but this time nothing happened. The power on LED would not turn blue no matter how long I held it pressed. Had to remove the power cord, waited 30 seconds and plugged it back in. Long press on the power button and the NAS came back up and started the memory test all on it's own. Tested the 16GB two more times, log shows all the testing for all the memory tests passed.

I have dumped all the logs after running the tests and will look for any event's / error messages to see if this is normal operation or a bug...

I have done some research and found this behavior being alluded to in a Synology forum for a different model but no replies or any follow-up posts.

I have exercised the NAS in each memory configuration after doing the memory testing and there was no abnormal operation, error events or anything else to indicate there was a problem with memory. The NAS enumerates and allocates the added memory and shows everything is as it should be. I have been playing with a number of app's to see if anything fails and so far, everything is good.

So if you experience this sort of operation when running the *first memory test* on your new upgrade, I wouldn't get to excited as long as the memory passes it testing and you're not getting any error messages or other weird, unexpected behavior.

DSM 7 is far from perfect. I'm running it on my other two NAS units (DS115j which I use for target practice and a DS718+ which I use for nightly backups for 30 computers) and I've seen some abnormal behavior in Hyper Backup (corruption) on the DS718+, screen display weirdness on the DS115j and a few one-off events on both of those that I could not duplicate. The DS920+ - with the exception of the first time memory test weirdness, has been running great.

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BO Bobs asked on 27 September 2021, 20:26
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Need advise on hard drive choice for adding drives?

Hi, I have a Synology 1813+ 8-bay with 6 WD RED 3TB drives in a SHR-2 array. I've had it since 2014. I wanted to increase storage by filling the remaining two bays, and have been looking at 6TB drives to start the migration to a much larger array. Now I'm wanting to increase storage and was considering adding two 6TB drives in the open bays to start moving toward a larger array. I'm seeing a lot of discussion about the WD Red drives being SMR instead of CMR and also 4K vs. non-4K native drives. 1) My drives are WD30EFRX-68EUZN0. Do you know whether these in 2014 were CMR or are they SMR like the ones available today? (Seems like SMR was new tech in 2015-16) 2) What would be my options for increasing storage? Can I add to my SHR-2 array? Can I add two new drive in a second pool/array in the same NAS? 3) Should I look at buying a newer NAS (Synology or other) that might be better for PLEX video transcoding? Many thanks for your assistance Cheers
Need advise on hard drive choice for adding drives?
JA Jake2015 asked on 23 August 2021, 23:20
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QNAP TS453D 4G with Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe.M.2?

I have just purchased QNAP TS453D 4G and also purchased Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe.M.2. My objective is to run QTS from NVMe. But QNAP QM2 adaptor is out of my budget. Also I not looking for 10Gbe network. Kindly advise what adaptor I should buy. You may be aware QNAP TS453D 4G is having M.2 Slot Optional via a PCIe adapter PCIe Slot 1 PCIe Gen 2 x2 Kishalay Ghosh Dastidar
KI Kishalay_gd asked on 07 August 2021, 14:23
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Upgrade from DS220+ to a DS920+?

Hi, is it possible to simply take the 2 WD Reds from the 220+ and put them straight into the new 920 + and have them work ? As a precaution, I will back up before doing this to an external 10TB WD elements. Thanks,
RO Robdebank asked on 26 June 2021, 11:18
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Migrate from (DSM7) DS218+ to new DS920+?

Could you please advise on how to move from my existing DS218+ (2 x 4TB) to a brand new DS920+? The 218+ is running DSM 7, which I assume the 920+ won't be. Is it possible to upgrade the DS920+ to DSM 7 and then swap the drives from the DS218+ into slots 1&2? I assume that the DS920+ needs at least one blank drive in bay 1 to allow the DSM 7 update. Once I do that, can I eject it and use it elsewhere instead? I have ordered 2 x 2TB drives for the DS218+, as we plan to keep it as a remote backup for the new DS920+.
WE Westyphoto asked on 17 May 2021, 17:54
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Recommendation for Upgrading from DS1513+?

Hi, love the videos, thank you for what you do! I need help in a bit more direction of what to purchase. Currently, I have a DS1513+ (purchased when it first came out) I put 5 x 3TB WD Green Drives (5400rpm). I was complete newbie to the NAS world. My Drobo had died so I just purchased the first thing that was recommended to me by friends. It’s setup in SHR-2 configuration. After 7 years, it is 95% filled, the RAM was upgraded at time of purchase. Everything is sluggish. I am beginning to receive emails of bad sectors. I figured it was time to upgrade. I was initially leaning towards the RS1221+ (I have a rack in the closet) but the video you posted gave me lots to think about spending the money elsewhere. I started looking at the DS1821+, I was debating of starting fresh with either 6TB or 8TB drives (in an SHR-2) configuration. Now after watching lots of videos, I am not sure what to buy (or maybe the DS1621+)? Current uses for our NAS: it is the master archive of our home/home office/family/friends for the last decade. I have a backup to the cloud for the important things and a passport drive for the utmost emergency items (in case of death, etc). Lots of multimedia creation happens in the house, audio recordings, editing, photography sessions, we haven’t really focused on video at all. Mainly lots of audio and photos. Plex as well from time to time, not huge. The DS1513+ will be repurposed for either backup or anything else that I can mess around with. Lastly, I have Unifi Router, Access Points, and PoE switch in the house. Main computer is the M1 Mac Mini. 2 Macbook Pros, and a handful of iPads, iPhones. All of which ultimately connect to the NAS and backup to it as well. Recommendation for which Synology NAS? How much would I benefit from a RAM or NVME upgrade? Would you go with 6TB drives or 8TB drives? (I have a bad habit of buying all drives in one shot versus adding as I need) Thank you for your help!
MF Mfanous asked on 31 January 2021, 06:27
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DS920+ RAM upgrade not recognized in VMM (but elsewhere it is!)?

I've added a 16 GB module to my Synology DS920+. It all seems to work very well, but the Virtual Machine Manager still says I have only 4 GB available on my host. See attached image. Any advice on why this is happening? The main reason for upgrading, was to allocate more RAM to VM, so it is quite a bummer. I'm using Kingston DDR4 - 16 GB - SO DIMM 260-pin. Part number KCP426SD8/16. (Thank you very much for your advice on the unofficial RAM upgrade option! And all your advice on Nascompares in general!)
DS920+ RAM upgrade not recognized in VMM (but elsewhere it is!)?
MA Markus asked on 19 January 2021, 14:16
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2x Drives SHR (without data protection) Can I swap one?

Hi All - I've just upgraded from my VERY basic 213J to a 720+...needless to say, it's like night & day. I had 2x 3TB drives originally, but one failed a couple of years ago, replaced with a 4TB. I set them up for maximum storage rather than have redundancy, because the NAS was used as a back up for my PC Now I've found how much you can do with a faster NAS, I'm thinking of replacing the 3TB with a 6TB and having it as back up for all 4 of us in the house. I'd still use my 100GB Google Drive account though as an additional off-site solution for my pics & vids of the kids growing up etc....as my NAS box is just a few feet away from my main PC, so a house fire would mean precious memories would be lost forever! Looking at the drives in DSM I can see the larger 4TB drive is about 60% used, the smaller 3TB drive only 8%. What prep would I need to do so I can replace the 3TB with a new 6TB....is it even possible without having to start from scratch & re-copy everything over again from my PC? Thanks for any advice....
TE Terrybull asked on 18 January 2021, 16:22
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TSH686 or something else?

Ive been strongly considering the QNAP TS-H686 with XeonD1602 but I did notice the tvs-672n(currently out of stock). which one should I consider? My requirements are as follows: 1. Powerful unit with future upgrade options (adding a GPU, RAM, HDD/SSD/NvME later would be a plus) 2. I plan to start off with 3-4 4TB drives as I feel the need to start small (wallet friendly), obviously with options to upgrade to higher TB drives like a 16 or 18tb 3. Should have less power usage 4. Ability to setup a private cloud out of the box. I feel the need to completely do-away with Google Drive for long term costs and privacy concerns 5. Primary files types will be photos, videos and documents. Eventually should be in a position to integrate CCTV and some home automation. 6. Most important aspect, I would prefer something that has the least to no maintenance for the next 8-10 years. Synology does not have the upgradable options and the flexibility offered by QNAP. Recommendation??
NA Nas rookie asked on 22 December 2020, 09:36
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QNAP TVS-872XT Capacity increase and RAID Migration from 5 to 6 Upgrade Order?

In my QNAP TVS-872XT, I have four 16 TB drives in a RAID 5 configuration. I am going to add two more drives to this and am looking to increase the storage and migrate to RAID 6 too. Is there a preferred/optimal way to do this? e.g. 1) add one drive then migrate to RAID 6, following on from that add the second drive to increase the storage capacity? 2) upgrade the capacity, then the RAID level? 3) Can they both be done at once? I'm not even sure that is possible. I'm thinking that the first option of the RAID migration followed by the expansion might be safest? What do people think? Any comments or suggestions will be gratefully received. Many thanks, Alex.
AL Alexwalker.photo asked on 24 November 2020, 19:53
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Qnap Red Light Flashing - continued topic?

Dear Experts, Some time ago there was a post on Q&A Forum about status LED flashing https://nascompares.com/answer/qnap-red-light-flashing-solution/ In the article there was statement "If it doesn’t boot, you will need to come back to me.".....sooo I come back. I have QNAP 453B, after firmware update the NAS is "dead". Status LED if flashing (color red, period 2sec). The HDD drive's are plugged out. There is no beep signal. Fan is not rotate (I disconnected the fun plug and connect the fan to external power supply - fun is working). If needed I can replace the FAN to new one. But before firmware update he works fine (software update damaged him? I don't think so.) What do you think? Is there any option to bring the NAS alive?
MU Muniek12 asked on 16 November 2020, 12:39
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Synology 1621+ ?

Would like to upgrade my Memory and SSD catch could you tell me what Models I need and where to buy in the UK
KN Kno9 asked on 03 November 2020, 11:49
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Any MEMTEST Results for > 8GB+ QNAP TS-x53D??

I'm interested in the QNAP TS-453D. NASCompares has shown it can work with 2x 16GB (32GB) capacity, HOWEVER, no conclusive memory tests were performed! Everyone, including NASCompares, just assumes if QTS can launch everything is working. Ridiculous. Has anyone installed more than 8GB then run MEMTEST to confirm the CPU can actually read/write beyond the Intel-stated 8GB limit? Having QTS simply boot or just running a VM within QTS while not using it are terrible tests considering how efficiently OS's and CPU's can handle resources these days. A valid test would be to fill the memory beyond the advertised 8GB capacity and see what happens. ## QNAP x53 series CPU - Intel J4125 Spec Sheet: https://tinyurl.com/y3m3ojfz ## QNAP MemTest: https://wiki.qnap.com/wiki/Memory_Test ## NASCompares x53D 32GB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv_8b916FU4
BA Babbage asked on 25 October 2020, 06:35
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Migration from Synology 8-bay NAS to 6-bay NAS with expansion enclosure?

Hi, Please can you help a noob. I have an 8-bay Synology DS1815+ (out of warranty) which has failed to power on after a reload. I tested and tried new PSU - no blue light - no motherboard. So I'm resigned to get a replacement Synology NAS (I'm using SHR). I've seen the excellent youtube vid comparing DS1621XS+ and DS3617XS. In my DS1815+ I have 8 drives: 4x6TB, 2x4TB and 2x18TB WD181KRYZ Gold new drives). The config uses SHR - with two volumes (6 disks and 2 disks). The questions I have: I) Will I be able to migrate to a DS1621XS+ by first installing just 6 drives (one volume) and then slowly reducing the number of disks to enable to add second volume ii) If not, will I be able to use a DS1621XS+ (6 bay) + expansion (DX517) to facilitate an initial migration to the new platform. I appreciate long term best not to have a volume split via eSATA. iii) or am I forced to use an 8 or more bay chassis for the initial migration. Really appreciate your help with this :-)
FR Freedo100 asked on 02 October 2020, 22:10
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Is 16GB Ram upgrade on DS918+ still OK after DSM 6.2.3 update?

Have read a few posts on the web saying that after DSM 6.2.3 update 16GB Ram upgrade on Synology DSx18+ doesn't work flawlessly (or at all) anymore. Could you confirm?
LR Lricc335 asked on 09 September 2020, 20:36
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Advice on new QNAP NAS purchase?

Upgrading home network and looking for advice/comments on my ideas. Need to replace 2 TS-453Bminis (4 bay) with ones that with faster network connectivity. One mini is Plex server, one mini is backup and mapped drives for home network. Both 4 bay with HGST 6 TBs drives in all bays. Must be able to migrate by using old drives. (see https://www.qnap.com/en/nas-migration/) Think a 4 bay TS-453D can replace the Plex mini and has faster LAN, but am wondering if a 4 bay TS-473 might be better for backup and mapped drives because it has faster CPU, handles more memory and can take add in cards to get the higher LAN speed. Budget for both is $1500 US so some room for more bays or different models. I'm OK with getting base memory and adding in later. The final setup would use the 5 port QSW-1105-5T 2.5GBe switch with the 2 new NAS and my 2 home PCs using high speed LAN cards connected to it. Advice? Comments? Flaws I've not considered or such? All feedback appreciated.
JM Jmcging asked on 30 August 2020, 15:06
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Help and advice with Upgrade for Storage Expansion set up?

The Problem: - I did what I could only do and installed my 4 x 10TB existing Sata drives into the new TVS 682, it appears I cannot use static volume with the new Qtier SSD drives function (Qsync over our network to 5 Computers?) – presently able to carry out our normal nightly back up of each computer drive (Documents and its Qsync folder) I suppose I am looking for a heads up before I have to click the rebuild button? Is this right or is there another option? Looked till I am now confused – (I’ll say it first - yes I am easily confused) BTW - Purchased TL D800S via SPAN – TVS 682 via Box
MI Minalo1 asked on 12 August 2020, 20:10
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Ds720+ ram upgrade?

Bought one 16GB CT16G4SFD8266 but unfortunately did not work for the DS720+ (blue light is flushing and is not booting up). Do you know what ram module is compatible with the 720+ and what is preferable size 8GB or 16GB. Thanks.
RO Robert@krzysik.eu asked on 10 August 2020, 06:57
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Moving data from old nas to new nas?

I have DS411 with four 2TB drives. The raid configuration on two drives is set to Basic (with out protection) and the other two are set to Synology hybrid raid SHR (with out protection) The DS411 is not supported by migration assistant for the source . So here is my Question, Can I set up the DS1019 with one 12tb drive, then insert the old drives to copy the data, then discard those old drives? Thank you for your time.
AS Asoucar asked on 14 May 2020, 20:47
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Ease of upgrading 1 of 2 JBOD drives in DS214play ?

Thanks in advance for your help. I'm running a DS214play for file and media storage/playback with 2 3Tb WD RED drives which are configured as 1 Storage Pool with Synology's JBOD but are now nearly full. I'm happy with the performance (so don't eg need to upgrade the whole NAS) so I'm wondering how easy it is/what steps would be needed to swap out 1 drive for a larger capacity one. For example, if I used external USB HDDs to temporarily take the file capacity down to, say, 2Tb, is there a way of reconfiguring the JBOD to allow 1 of the drives to be removed and a larger capacity one swapped in ? Synology's Help Centre seems very quiet on this subject. Thanks
MA Marcam1000 asked on 03 May 2020, 10:03
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